New owner of modded DTV with questions - can anybody help?

MIRKOSOFT · August 15, 2017 at 1:37 AM 5 posts here

Hi!

I'm new owner of Commodore 64 DTV modded to computer with these mods:
PS/2 keyboard port
internal PSU
UIEC/SD (or anything like this)
two control ports
one serial port
composite video
RCA audio

I found some problems which want to solve, so I'm asking anybody who knows about and can help.

My DTV has PS/2 problem - I tried to connect USB keyboard by USB>PS/2 but keyboard not accepted and not working, I tested to be sure else one and the same result. Accepts DTV PS/2 keyboards only or is it possible to overide it by any trick?
I want to remap keyboard - it is mapped like PC US keyboard except switched Z and Y - like in Germany and here in Slovakia - but I'm not using it. I want to remap to own layout - tell me anybody how?
SD Card access can be easier by any DOS wedge - exist any?
Question also: How to copy files in drive Please login to see this link. (so flash ROM)? In this case also how to create own ROM image and transfer it to DTV?
I was reading about PS/2 mouse on User Port - I want only to know if is possible to use mouse on one of joystick port - my DTV has not User Port

It is lot of Questions, thank you all for at least reading it.
I'm thankful for each help.

Miro

controlport2 · August 15, 2017 at 7:12 AM 2 posts here Official Post

Hi Miro.

I just altered the title of your post to "questions" instead of "Qs".

Please refrain from using abbreviations in this forum when you write in English.

Thanks!

lvr · August 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM 2 posts here

Hi,

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Accepts DTV PS/2 keyboards only or is it possible to overide it by any trick?

Only PS/2 keyboards are supported. These simple USB-PS/2 adapters will only work if they were delivered with the keyboard, i.e. the keyboard must be designed to support PS/2.

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I want to remap keyboard

Search for Please login to see this link.. It is a hardware solution for this and consists of a a small microcontroller between DTV and keyboard. It's small enough to be included in the DTV or the keyboard.
Please login to see this link. I also made some improvements or fixes to the twister code, to map all keys to this exact keyboard (must probably be adapted a bit to other keyboards or languages).

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SD Card access can be easier by any DOS wedge - exist any?

JiffyDOS works.
But be careful not to brick your DTV. AFAIR there is a hard way to flash Jiffy directly replacing the kernal (dangerous) and an easier way, startable from the menu (less probably to brick it). I chose the easy way.

Cyberdyne · August 15, 2017 at 9:09 AM 1 post here

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My DTV has PS/2 problem - I tried to connect USB keyboard by USB>PS/2 but keyboard not accepted and not working, I tested to be sure else one and the same result. Accepts DTV PS/2 keyboards only or is it possible to overide it by any trick?

With USB mice I know that Kind of problem. The usb-device needs to support the legacy mode and not all mice support it. BUT! Till now I thought that keyboards always support the legacy mode. Did you test with a real PS/2 keyboard?
And there is an other problem with the DTV an keyboards. The keyboard is not initialized correctly. Do you have a reset switch? You should switch on the DTV, wait a few seconds, reset the DTV (do not powercycle!) and then test the keyboard.

peiselulli · August 15, 2017 at 11:52 AM 1 post here

And only 5 Volts for the keyboard, so don't use batteries to power the device. Have you add a 5V power supply ?

MIRKOSOFT · August 17, 2017 at 5:20 PM 5 posts here

I understand - so I'll buy PS/2 keyboard and use it by switch for PC and DTV.

Small microcontroller between DTV and keyboard I don't know if is present - I was not modding DTV, I bought it so as is.
Can I do any test how to get if is present.

Last Q about 5V power supply I don't understand correctly.
My DTV has built-in PSU connected to 220V power by same cable like power to PCs...

BTW: Is possible to find OnScreen Keyboard program for DTV? I saw it in few screenshots...

Miro

lvr · August 17, 2017 at 6:21 PM 2 posts here

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Can I do any test how to get if is present.

Simplest thing would be to open the DTV and have a look inside. If there is a small 8-pin IC connected between the keyboard connector and the DTV board you have a twister.

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Last Q about 5V power supply I don't understand correctly.
My DTV has built-in PSU connected to 220V power by same cable like power to PCs...

The original DTV runs on 4 batteries that results in a total voltage of 6V. PS/2 keyboards work on only 5V so running on a fresh set of batteries might fry your keyboard.
If you have a proper 5V supply everything is fine.

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BTW: Is possible to find OnScreen Keyboard program for DTV?

Yes, there is a trick to enable this. I think you have to wiggle the joystick while booting the DTV,

controlport2 · August 17, 2017 at 6:21 PM 2 posts here Official Post

BTW: is it possible that you refrain from abbreviations, as I asked for before?

MIRKOSOFT · August 19, 2017 at 11:06 AM 5 posts here

Ok ,I'm sorry for abbreviations.

OnScreen keyboard - wiggle joystick in which port?

Miro

GenerationCBM · August 19, 2017 at 3:56 PM 1 post here

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OnScreen keyboard - wiggle joystick in which port?

Port 2, which I think should be the same as the DTV as a unit is itself.
Upon the blue screen when the simulated load"*",8,1 is about to happen, wiggle the joystick and it will load an internal directory instead. Choose files with the joystick, confirm with Fire. In the "Basic Prompt", hold fire for the onscreen keyboard, choose with the joystick, selected key appears upon release of the fire button.

MIRKOSOFT · August 19, 2017 at 9:41 PM 5 posts here

Today I connected to my DTV PS/2 Y cable and by this I connected PS/2 keyboard and PS/2 mouse.
Keyboard works, mouse I can't to test - is possible to reach mouse and learn to programming it?

Thank you very much!
Miro

mc71 · August 20, 2017 at 12:10 AM 2 posts here

A mouse on an Y cable (no abbreviation, just graphic depiction of what it looks like!) is not electrically connected to the Consumer Sixty-Forur Kilobytes Computer Direct-ro-Television unit (see- no abbreviations make it so much easier to read *cough*) ; the D.T.V.(oops! Could have used Copy and Paste, shouldn't i?) can only use keyboards on the Personal System Halves port, no mouse possible. One could, however, make an extended Keyboard Twister that translates Mouse Movements into Keypresses- however useful that would be...

DorkvonWaterfall · August 20, 2017 at 10:07 AM 1 post here

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A mouse on an Y cable (no abbreviation, just graphic depiction of what it looks like!) is not electrically connected to the Consumer Sixty-Forur Kilobytes Computer Direct-ro-Television unit (see- no abbreviations make it so much easier to read *cough*) ; the D.T.V.(oops! Could have used Copy and Paste, shouldn't i?) can only use keyboards on the Personal System Halves port, no mouse possible. One could, however, make an extended Keyboard Twister that translates Mouse Movements into Keypresses- however useful that would be...

ROFL LMAO

MIRKOSOFT · August 20, 2017 at 6:50 PM 5 posts here

Ok.
So I have questiom:
Is possible to use 1351 compatible mouse in Control Port 1 or 2?
If I remember correctly not, but for question it has sense.
I know about mouse via User Port.
My DTV has not User Port - is it hard to do it?

Miro

mc71 · August 24, 2017 at 7:51 PM 2 posts here

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Is possible to use 1351 compatible mouse in Control Port 1 or 2?

Yes, in joystick mode.

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My DTV has not User Port - is it hard to do it?

See Please login to see this link. and decide yourself.

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