Troubleshooting / all topics in one... [Sammelthread]

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  • Is possible without any software check which drive is IEC-ATA V2?

    I would imagine you do it the same way as with a floppy drive.

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  • check:
    LOAD"$",8
    LOAD"$",9
    LOAD"$",10
    LOAD"$",11

    ok, it's possible, but when I have this devices used and IEC-ATA device is e.g. Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen. - how to know that isn't Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen.?

    Is there any message like:

    CBM DOS 2.6, 1541 or so?

    'cause with this I can work e.g.
    CBM DOS 2.6, IEC-ATA ...
    ?

    Miro

  • Is there any message like:
    CBM DOS 2.6, 1541 or so?

    Why don't you simply read the error channel and try to find out?
    Short answer: Yes.

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  • btw, it is a good idea to simply only check for those drives which need specific treatment in your code - and use standard (kernal) procedures for everything else. also its not a good idea to rely too much on the error channel output.... you should only ever take it as a vague indication. (for example the weird speeddos clone i am using just gives a chunk of random gibberish on the error channel after init =P)

  • And the error channel message of the iec2ata can be set by the user to whatever he/she feels like

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  • Hi!

    I used your new C-NLQ-FLASHER488.PRG flasher, everything was working correctly, but when I started calibration, computer found NLQ-HDs only 8 - this I don't undestand.
    My drive has devicenumber Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen....
    Jumper config at calibration was: JC1-2 set/RESET:OUT/BUS POWER:OUT

    I did it step-by-step from manual at Forum64

    Miro

  • Hi!

    I used new software "C-NLQ-FLASHER488.PRG" to flash AVR. It was successfull.
    When I tried to CALIBRATION, after loading I confirmed PAL system.
    That was last Q from program.
    Then it starts searching for NLQ-HDs...
    And found only Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen..
    My drive has devicenumber Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen....
    It continues searching for drives, but after 15min, I turn off computer.
    Jumper config at calibration was: JC1-2 set/RESET:OUT/BUS POWER:OUT
    Now I can't re-flash AVR, also when I let RESET jumper open, computer don't access any drive - freezes...

    Can anybody help me?

    Many thanks for every reply.

    Miro

  • Zitat

    I used new software "C-NLQ-FLASHER488.PRG" to flash AVR. It was successfull. When I tried to CALIBRATION, after loading I confirmed PAL system. That was last Q from program. Then it starts searching for NLQ-HDs... And found only Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen.. My drive has devicenumber Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen.... It continues searching for drives, but after 15min, I turn off computer. Jumper config at calibration was: JC1-2 set/RESET:OUT/BUS POWER:OUT Now I can't re-flash AVR, also when I let RESET jumper open, computer don't access any drive - freezes...


    The only difference of flasher487 to 488 is that 488 displays the wrong bytes read from the AVR. So I don't understand why 488 works while 487 doesn't. There must be any coincidence which allows flashing sometimes and somes it doesn't - but I cannot imagine what this could be. CAL&CON tests all devices from 8 to 30 by sending a command which only NLQHD answers. When the program hangs while displaying 8 then this isn't normal. If device 8 is present then it will answer, if it isn't, then there is no hanging there at least. This must be again any coincidence. What does 'My drive has devicenumber Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen.' mean? Is this the devicenumber of the internal 1571? I asked you to tell us the AVR-answer-bytes when flashing doesn't work - so far you didn't do this. Does your C128 has JiffyDOS? If yes then switch it off for calibrating. Do you use a correct serial cable (no audio-cable)? Can you make a foto of your C128 and IEC-ATA? The flasher sets the fuses correctly, so I don't understand why flashing doesn't work again (any coincidence?). Perhaps you could buy any cheap C64 (EBAY, HOOD...). I don't understand what 'computer don't access any drive - freezes' means. Your information is a little bit confusing. There is no advantage to start ten threads at the same time.

  • Yeah, do we really need a new thread for each new problem you encounter?


    @mod: Können wir die verschiedenen Threads zum Thema IECATA von ihm zusammenlegen? Man verliert echt den Überblick inzwischen.

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  • Hi!

    "my devicenumber is Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen." - it means that my internal C1571 has HW changed devicenumber to Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen. to access.
    no, I don't have JiffyDOS - I read at dialog of calibration what has to be off/disconnected
    "disk access freezes" - it means that when I have connected IEC-ATA V2 and write LOAD"$",10 then it prints:
    SEARCHING FOR $
    and after nothing - no drive access, no computer output.
    When I set RESET jumper or disconnect IEC-ATA access is correctly.

    What I had only connected to computer through flashing and calibration:
    internal C1571, serial cable connected IEC-ATA, 2 monitors (one for VIC/one for VDC) , joystick, mouse and keyboard.
    I disconnected:
    datasette, 64HDD PWR/Link - so no cartridge, no datasette, no other drive.

    What do you think when you're writting "when Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen. is found it's ok"
    How can be found Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen. if I have only drive Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen.? And also - important - how long time to wait until searching procedure is done?

    Thanks.

    Miro


  • Thank you for this detailed information.
    (1) means that the IEC-ATA-hardware locks the bus. Do you have an not-defective-IDE-HD connected to IEC-ATA? When there is no HD connected then the firmware hangs in the reset-routine and locks the bus.
    (2) is good. (Put the monitor-cables as far away as possible from the serial cable and from the IEC-ATA-hardware)
    (3) means that it doesn't matter whether a floppy with devicenumber 8 is present or not; there is no hanging anyway.
    Displaying a '8' doesn't mean that CAL&CON found a floppy with DN 8. This means that actually DN 8 is tested whether it is present and whether it is a NLQ-HD-drive. Finding the NLQ-HDs is so fast that the numbers from 8 to 30 are printed so fast to the screen that you have problems to read them.

  • OK.

    You wrote:
    "Finding the NLQ-HDs is so fast that the numbers from 8 to 30 are printed so fast to the screen that you have problems to read them."

    So, searching has to be fast? 'Cause the problem is it found Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen. and no more numbers are displayed/printed, I was waiting 15min and no any numbers displayed.
    Program stands at found drive Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen. and no more answer - 15min long... after I turned off the computer

    So, is it normal?

    Miro

  • Zitat

    You wrote:
    "Finding the NLQ-HDs is so fast that the numbers from 8 to 30 are printed so fast to the screen that you have problems to read them."
    So, searching has to be fast? 'Cause the problem is it found Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen. and no more numbers are displayed/printed, I was waiting 15min and no any numbers displayed.
    Program stands at found drive Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen. and no more answer - 15min long... after I turned off the computer
    So, is it normal?


    As explained in the posting before this isn't normal. See how fast the NLQ-HD-detection is:
    - Close Jumper-Reset (so NLQ-HD cannot be found because it is switch off by a permanence-reset; but it' a demonstration only)
    - Start CAL&CON
    - Type Return at the question PAL/NTSC
    - Watch the numbers from 8 to 30 at the screen
    This speed is the same when a NLQ-HD IEC-ATA, which doesn't lock the bus, is connected.
    Please answer the question whether there is a working-HD connected or not.

  • so, I tried it...
    but CAL&CON printed only number Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen.. No more, it seems like it's searching still...
    HDD is connected, both diodes lights, JC is 1-2 set and RESET closed.

    So, what now, number 9-30 were not printed and program stands...

    Miro

  • ... CAL&CON writes all numbers and shows message:

    No NLQ-HD found

    why when is IEC-ATA connected it stops at Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen. and not work more?

    Miro

  • Zitat

    ... CAL&CON writes all numbers and shows message:
    (1) No NLQ-HD found

    (2) why when is IEC-ATA connected it stops at Bitte melde dich an, um diesen Link zu sehen. and not work more?


    (1) This is ok, because the IEC-ATA is deactivated.
    (2) I explaint this the third time now: The activated NLQHD-firmware locks the IEC-bus, so the C128 hangs at once when it wants to test whether there is a floppy with DN 8. I still don't know whether there is a ATA-HD connected to the IEC-ATA-hardware. I still cannot see any foto.

  • That looks suspiciously like a 10GB HDD from an XBOX?
    If that is the case... has it been unlocked?

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  • Zitat

    so, I did any pictures...


    Thank you; this helps.
    Try this:
    - Switch on C128 and IEC-ATA
    - Go to the C64-mode (not C128-mode)
    - remove JR
    - type load "$",30 ( -> the C128 will probably hang)
    - press STOP&RESTORE
    - type poke 56576,255 <return>
    - close JR
    - remove JR
    - wait about 20 seconds until the IEC-ATA-LED blinks (If the LED doesn't blink after 20s then there will be a bug and this will not work at all)
    - load and start SW-DEBUGTRANS, follow the instructions (If the screen isn't switched on after 20s then there will be a bug and this will not work at all)
    - Save the file to a disk and send it to me (NLQ@gmx.de).