How certain was the name "C65"?

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  • Hi there,

    I think "C65" is a pretty interesting name. It's very non-technical (C64, C128, C16 all have their names because of their RAM sizes for example), it's more like a nickname given by users or something like that. As far as I know, the previous code name was "C64DX", which would suggest "C64 Deluxe". Later it was called C65 in media and so on, but there has never been a type label / name plate on any of the models (as far as I know).

    Of course the name makes sense, it's "one better", just like C++ is "C plus one". It's also funny in this regard. But that's why it sounds so informal and untypical. It could have been namend C64plus, or C64+, or C64next, or whatever. But C65 is pretty... strange somehow. Not that I dislike it, it's actually cool in a way. But it's very unusual in another.

    So how certain are we that the official name would have really been "C65"?

    Have there been official documents / advertisements or whatever, that really suggest that the final name of the unit would have been C65?

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  • Most ROM revisions call it C65 in the power-on message.

    And it wasn't the only Commodore name to be just "one better". This naming practice was also a thing with the 1351 mouse, the Datassette 1531, the 1541 and the 1571 floppy drives and the SID 6582.

  • Yes, the ROMs call it C65, some older ones still call it C64DX as far as I know.

    As for the mouse and disk drives, I think those names are less relevant for consumers. I think most users didn't even know those numbers, but they knew whether they had a C64 or a C128, so that name was probably more important from a marketing point of view.

    Yes, one could assume in general that the name "C65" was pretty much set, however I'd like to know if there are any more hints :)

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  • Actually I think it's a pretty clever name choice. Anything like C256, C512 would be too far away to make clear it's C64 compatible. Anything with C64 in the name is too close to the C64, like it's a C64 but just a bit better.

    I think originally the idea was a C64DX to be a C64 with a built in disk drive, but then it evolved...

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  • Yes I think C65 is actually in a way better than C64DX, because with C64DX one could assume that it's basically the same computer with a few extras, whereas the C65 makes clearer that it's a different machine (but still related to the original C64)

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  • So how certain are we that the official name would have really been "C65"?

    I would say: 99,9% :)

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  • "C64DX", which would suggest "C64 Deluxe"

    I'd rather say it means "C64 with Drive Xtended".

    There was a "C64D" planned ("C64 with Drive", like the C128D), see here:

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    The C64DX re-claimed that idea again, with "X"tended features, evolving to the C65 somewhen.

  • Ah okay :) nice to know that!

    However C64 Deluxe of course makes also sense, as a nice side-effect :D

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  • They probably wanted to avoid confusion, especially since we had the SX64 and they had a DX64 (SX64 with two disc drives) in mind as well.

    i like both names C64DX and C65

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  • At least the machine shown in the 64er magazine after Commodore went down the drain had an original C64 power supply which had a sticker with "C65" on it that covered "C64".